I just spoke to the AliveCor helpline and they said that Kardia would probably show “unclassified” in the event of there being atrial flutter and would pick up some sort of trace of flutter. Are you in permanent flutter? A lot less risky and 95% succesful. The Kardia app has also been cleared to provide the Kardia determination results of Normal Sinus Rhythm, Possible Atrial Fibrillation, Bradycardia, and Tachycardia. Background . However, after 7 days of wearing it I contacted him for some other reason, and he had been receiving daily reports, and told me he already knew that I had an AFib event. The symptoms of atrial fibrillation or AFib are well-known: a fluttering feeling that can point to a quivering heart muscle, the notable skipped beat that’s the mark of a palpitation, and a racing heart rate that sparks other discomforts. Sent my Kardia results to both my GP and my EP. The Kardia Band also displays ECG rhythms and detects the presence of atrial fibrillation and normal sinus rhythm (when prescribed or used unde r the care of a physician). CONCLUSION: The AliveCor Kardia ECG monitor allows a highly accurate detection of atrial fibrillation by an interpreting electrophysiologist both in the standard lead I and a novel parasternal lead. Has anyone actually picked shown a Kardia ECG to a doctor or cardiologist and they have identified atrial flutter on it? Be nice to sit and talk over water- just kidding- coffee is probably afibbers choice - although I drink decaf tea and coffee. It uploads data to servers periodically, which is accessible by EP daily....and if something dramatic is picked up, a text message is immediately sent to the EP. 2021 - The year I was NOT going to hospital. Episodes of atrial fibrillation can come and go, or you may develop atrial fibrillation … It's becoming clear I've probaby been having at least some of these very short episodes for years as well but that was before I had the Kardia. Also can post who your EP is, or if not appropriate, could you send me a private message with his name and location. I'm with Buffafly on this, not worth it just for that. The rate was 143bpm. It does not have the capability to detect other conditions or take QT measurements. Atrial Flutter is included in the library. 2019 Nov;30(11):2220-2228. doi: 10.1111/jce.14160. Five weeks post ablation I talked to my EP s nurse - told her RHR was still high , BP ok and re- affirmed my apprehension about continuing on Amiodarone- Dr called back and said I should get an EKG- sure enough I am in atrial flutter so now scheduled for fourth cardio version since ablation . I take Flecainide for my AFlutter and have been flutter free for 18 months.It can cause AFib as a side effect. Kardia produces a very good quality single or six lead tracing. Close. Why diagnosis can be complicated – and what you can do to help. from Kardia which I took the day before yesterday. 2. Cool technology...but wish didn't need it:-)! When not in flutter my resting bpm was 46 so not measurable with kardia, When in flutter my bpm was a steady 150 regardless whether I was resting or running 5 miles on a treadmill. Then hoping for no episodes at least for awhile. My GP thought he saw flutter but I thought it was a shaky recording! doesn’t!! That is what my EP is saying, who appears to be on the "leading edge" of new procedures, studies, etc. To see Flutter waves reliably, it is best to record Lead II. Also, did you get notified your EP while you're wearing it? This is not the same as it’s having an algorithm to detect flutter, but is still... from Kardia which I took the day before yesterday. Untreated atrial fibrillation is associated with a 5-fold increased risk for stroke. 10 months on flecainide, Had afib, had an ablation for afib which stopped it, 9 days later developed reentrant atrial flutter.Unfortunately flutter must not be always be that obvious as when I went back to A&E (on verbal advice of my EP), I was diagnosed initially as AFIB, and they INCREASED the flecainide dose from 50 twice daily to 100 in order to cardiovert me, and my symptoms got worse! Besides flagging anything dramatic, I suppose another advantage of the AT is so that the doc knows if he found what he's looking for so he can either terminate early or tell you to wear it longer. This study evaluated the impact of daily ECG (electrocardiogram) self‐recordings on time to documented recurrent atrial fibrillation (AF) or atrial flutter (AFL) and time to treatment of recurrent arrhythmia in patients undergoing catheter radiofrequency ablation (RFA) … Fortunately, the med tech seems to be moving quickly in this and other areas, and hopefully there will be a permanent, reliable solution in next few years, even if ablations don't work permanently. From the explanations they provided, it sounded like Kardia would normally show any major issue that affects the "larger" waves on the EKG...it is only the less pronounced ones that may not be adequately displayed....but also those are apparently the less troublesome ones, typically. The KardiaMobile heart monitor and Kardia app is intended for adults to detect abnormal heart rhythms. Log In Sign Up. It is not my place to confirm ECG diagnosis by professionals nor do I have the knowledge to do so. Sometimes patients feel these premature beats as a skipping or irregularity of the heart beat. Fair enough! Using the St Jude ensuite system for the ablation and it was very strange seeing a computer image of my heart on display, I feel much better and stronger already, although I will take it easy for some time yet. I find It fascinating how different all the arrhythmias appear on the recordings, the layman with practice can get an idea of what they are looking at. I think that it shows to an experienced reader if ecg’s the condition but it doesn’t “ say” this is flutter. Tantaanna,whereabouts are you? He told me I could quit wearing it then, if I wanted to, since he had already confirmed what he suspected, but I went ahead and wore for full 14 days just in case it recorded something of further significance (which it did not). What are the symptoms of atrial flutter? I may have jumped the gun with ablations, but it seemed the episodes were becoming more frequent, and after wearing the AT monitor for a couple weeks which recorded several events, decided to proceed with ablations. My situation was fairly unique. It can be used for screening for AF, but this is out of scope for this briefing, which focuses on those with symptoms or known AF. In case anyone hasn't found it , if you open the Kardia App on the homepage and go to 'settings' (little green bars top left corner) then select 'Heart Education' then 'Arrhythmia Library' it gives named examples of the different arrhythmias which can then be compared with your own recording. barbaras, I have heard similar but the problem is that if your flutter episodes are very short like mine (under an hour) the chances of getting to a a 12 lead ekg machine are slim. It seems to show atrial... lady a surgery date got flutter ablation or CTI ablation or isthmus ablation (it’s been called all... jubilie hospital Scotland after having ablation for my atrial flutter and I can honestly say I've... that I am suffering from Atrial Fibrillation, Atrial Tachycardia AND Atrial Flutter!!! Yes, I was very surprised when both my EP and cardiologist said the (different) Kardia traces which I showed them were AFlutter. Thank you - haven’t purchased yet as still on med after ablation- five more days. My resting HR had been running at 65 or less after ablations, but moved up to around 100. EP knew I had flutter, but suspected might have Afib as well...and wanted to know before doing an ablation so could address both at same time. That’s not all… 7. Epub 2019 Sep 25. Yes - very easy to identify - what Bob said. Happened to me. You can use your left hand to push down the side on the knee. This is one of the most important diet tips to prevent afib. Just a non medical opinion, Fibfab and DrDave01 the inventor of the Kardia are sometimes free to give a professional opinion. I would just like to clear a possible misunderstanding here.I did not confirm Kardia"s diagnoses of the ECG. The EP doesn't contact you unless whatever is transmitted is beyond monitoring limits that he, or Zio, establish...so he never called me after the events since they were "normal" Fib or Flutter events and HR didn't go off the charts. Both can lead to serious complications such as stroke. Cox proportional hazard model analysis confirmed the likelihood of recurrence was greater in the intervention group (p=0.04). Content on HealthUnlocked does not replace the relationship between you and doctors or other healthcare professionals nor the advice you receive from them. During our office visits we review the recordings he has made. I just spoke to AliveCor in the US and they say that whilst Kardia would not identify flutter by name (as it would with AF) it would pick up the characteristic flutter pattern and probably show this as “unclassified”. The Apple Watch can detect atrial fibrillation. But it's even more likely to raise false alarms, which can have harmful consequences. Normally I feel the fib- but really not feeling this flutter/ just wondering if Kardia would detect the flutter?. He was quite bothered by the fact that he had several that were identified by Alivecor as AF but in fact were normal. The diagnostic algorithm offered by the system may be useful in screening recordings for further review.